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    Tony Gilroy on Giving ‘Andor’ a ‘Hopeful’ Finish, Bringing Again Okay-2SO, and Episode 10’s Revealing Backstory

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    On Tuesday, Disney+ dropped the final three episodes of “Andor,” wrapping up the sequence and immediately establishing “Rogue One.” It’s not typical {that a} tv present must move its baton to a movie made virtually a decade earlier, and “Andor” creator Tony Gilroy didn’t need to method the present’s last episode in a typical means, both.

    Whereas on this week’s episode of the Filmmaker Toolkit podcast, Gilroy talked about combating towards the necessity to incorporate one last massive resolution or turning level in wrapping up the sequence heading into “Rogue One.”

    “Episode 12 is absolutely its personal factor the place we didn’t put a variety of strain to jack something up,” stated Gilroy on the podcast. “That is sort of a ‘ship the pizza’ episode, and the pizza is emotional, and all people settled into it, and we took the strain off ourselves.”

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    Cassian Andor (Diego Luna) in Lucasfilm's ANDOR Season 2, exclusively on Disney+. Photo courtesy of Lucasfilm. ©2025 Lucasfilm Ltd. & TM. All Rights Reserved.

    Gilroy particularly needed to exit on a hopeful notice. “Andor” Season 2 was concerning the private sacrifices and not possible decisions characters confronted in taking over the reason for the nascent rebel, and the sequence creator felt as if “Andor” had earned the suitable to finish with a measured notice of optimism.

    “We’re actually placing the viewers via some amazingly troublesome journeys [of] what time does to folks that hopefully you care about, and [what] time, beneath these actually excessive circumstances and these excessive adventures that they’re on, does to them,” stated Gilroy. “So there’s a variety of attrition on the finish. There’s a variety of disappointment on the finish. However actually, ultimately, that is the start of ‘A New Hope.’ What’s going to return out of that is the phoenix of the Revolt.”

    ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY, l-r: Diego Luna, Alan Tudyk (as K-2SO), 2016. © Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures / Lucasfilm Ltd. /Courtesy Everett Collection
    Diego Luna and Alan Tudyk (as Okay-2SO) in ‘Rogue One’©Walt Disney Co./courtesy Everett / Everett Assortment

    The final three-episode cycle “Andor” additionally noticed Okay-2SO (voiced by Alan Tudyk) again into the fold, returning to the outstanding supporting position that the modified KX-series safety droid performs in “Rogue One.” It’s a transfer Gilroy purposefully delayed and left to the sequence finish. As Gilroy defined on the podcast, his preliminary involvement with “Andor” was as a pal to the franchise, giving notes to Lucasfilm on its preliminary plans for a “Rogue One” prequel sequence. Along with his recommendation to take a “back-to-the-studs” method to Cassian Andor’s (Diego Luna) arc, which might turn out to be the premise of his personal sequence, he extremely really helpful they abandon their formidable plans for Okay-2SO.

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    “I used to be saying, I don’t assume you may have Okay-2 all through this present, which they saved eager to attempt to do as a result of that was the, ‘Let’s have a Butch and Sundance’ present,” stated Gilroy of the preliminary plans to have Cassian and the droid go on 40-episodes value of missions collectively — a proposal that reminded the “Rogue One” author of his personal story struggles with Okay-2. “He’s the worst piece of bags on the planet. He’s not a spy, you may’t take him undercover, he’s seven toes tall. KX items are so inhibiting. For those who watch ‘Rogue’ with that in thoughts, what number of instances is he isn’t allowed to get out of the ship, or ‘I’ve to attend right here and do one thing.’”

    In a sequence which, at its core, is about supplying an emotional understanding of what brings characters of all stripes to combat a fascist Empire, Episode 10 is arguably the holy grail of “Why We Combat” Revolt backstories: Luthen (Stellan Skarsgård) and Kleya (Elizabeth Dulau). Gilroy stated very early on he knew he would discover Luthen’s backstory, and was saving it for a key storyline of the stealthy underground chief for close to the tip of “Andor.”

    “I had quite a lot of backstories that Stellan and I spoke about early within the first season,” stated Gilory. “The one factor he didn’t need was he didn’t need revenge. He stated, ‘I don’t need it to be a revenge story. I see that in a few of the different characters, and I believe that’s the one I don’t need.”

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    ANDOR, Elizabeth Dulau, (Season 2, aired April, 2025). photo: ©Disney+/Lucasfilm /Courtesy Everett Collection
    Elizabeth Dulau as Kleya in ‘Andor’ Season 2©Disney+/Courtesy Everett Assortment

    The final word Episode 210 storyline, and the incorporation of Kleya, as an virtually adopted daughter, into Luthen’s backstory, was motivated and impressed by the skills of Dulau. Gilroy and Skarsgård had each been impressed by the beforehand unknown actress’s abilities, and needed to provide her and the character the chance to unfold their wings earlier than saying goodbye.

    “Elizabeth Dulau, who performs Kleya, was such an unimaginable shock. It’s her first job. She got here proper out of RADA, and we had a few actresses who have been signed up for that half, who obtained provided different issues alongside the best way, and we allow them to go. And all of the sudden now we have this younger actress [who we don’t really know,” said Gilroy. “[Her] audition’s superb, and her scenes are superb, however how good is she? And oh my God, you begin to understand what somebody can do. She’s a Meryl Streep. I imply, she’s simply astonishing.”

    To listen to Tony Gilroy’s full interview, subscribe to the Filmmaker Toolkit podcast on Apple, Spotify, or your favourite podcast platform. You can too watch the complete interview on the high of the web page or on IndieWire’s YouTube web page.



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